DND3.5E

[Bremmer]

nog een paar dingen over 3.5

In July of this year (2003), WotC will be releasing revised versions of the core rulebooks (Players Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, Monster Manual). Each of the revised core rulebooks will contain 320 pages and retail for $29.99.

WotC's official announcement concerning the revised core rulebooks.
WotC have posted cover images of the revised core rulebooks in their online product catalogue. Of these, only the PHB appears to have changed, so chances are that the DMG and MM covers are just the old covers used in the catalogue as place-fillers.
WotC appear to have come up with a logo for D&D 3.5 (pictured right). Interestingly, the logo actually contains the characters "3.5", which implies that they have officially adopted that as a means of referring to the revised core rulebooks, at least during the run-up period.
WotC have posted a FAQ about the revised books.

[Bremmer]

en de nieuwe PHB:

[Bremmer]

veranderingen per boek

The updates will will be written by Ed Stark, and will give examples of the types of revisions they'll be making, grouped around a theme with an example from each book. This one focuses on character generation.

PHB: Racial Benefits. The example given is exotic weapons specific to certain races, like the Ugrosh. Dwarves now have "Weapon Familiarity" as a racial ability, which lets them treat it as a martial weapon.

MM: Monsters as Characters. Will have material on playing certain monsters as characters, though not as detailed as that in Savage Species. There's a sidebar giving the information for the ogre (though it's not clear whether it's final or complete).

DMG: Prestige classes. Will include the Spellsword, an updated Dragon Disciple, and a few world-specific classes (just as examples of how to do them) including the Red Wizard. All the current ones will return, but it sounds like they might be considering some changes. They've separated PrCs into seven roles: race, party role, situational, iconic, game function (does things other characters can't, like the Spellsword), transformation (turns into something else), and world-specific."

[Bremmer]

Originally posted by Elminster

Weet iemand wat een restricted activity is? Zal wel in de PHB staan, maar die heb ik al vele malen van kaft tot kaft gelezen en het woord komt me niet bekend voor (?)

dit kwam ik ook nog tegen op ENworld

Aitch Eye has summarised the info on D&D 3.5 to be found in Dragon Magazine #305:
PH: "Now, we have only four basic types of actions: free, standard, move, and full-round. The lists of what fits where have been cleaned up, and the presentation of each action type is clearer and more concise." Mostly they were trying to make the chapter "much more accessible."

dus het is toch iets anders, let op dat er geen partial actions meer zijn?! wat voor effect zou dat op haste hebben?

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nog een paar belangrijk punten:
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The game now assumes that you use a battlemat (or something of the sort) and minis, and the rules are written to reflect this aspect of the game.

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1) Unclear rules. Attacks of Opportunity were given as an example of something that will be re-edited for clarity.
2) Underdeveloped rules. Prestige classes were originally just a small section. This has ballooned into something that practically every D20
supplement has as content. The rules for creating them will be expanded.
3) "Broken" rules. The "H" spells (Harm, Haste, and Heal) were given as examples of spells that will be re-addressed.


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I know people want to know character classes; four of them will have some major changes. Those playing Bards, Druids, Monks, and Rangers will want to see what happens. These "tweener" classes as Skip Williams named them will see some improvements and some of their abilities will be stretched out. Rangers will definitely no longer be front loaded with their feats. However their spell selection and abilities will be beefed up for mid and high levels of play.

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Spells will be cleaned up. Some heavy changes will also be done to some. Haste was especially a hot topic. The new haste will still have +4 AC but will not give a partial action anymore. Instead it will provide an extra attack. This was done because it was making the Quicken metamagic feat undesirable. Why shell out for a feat when a spell does this already and does more? Speaking of Partial actions, they are gone. There will be move, move-equivalent, standard and full actions. If there is a need for an exception (say the Zombie) it will be part of the zombie listing.

[Planetouched]

snik, daar gaat de mooie haste...ze hadden ook gewoon quicken spell een level slot minder kunnen doen...

[Bremmer]

jah maar dan zou ik hem nog niet nemen denk ik... en zou dit niet spaak lopen met de andere metamagic feats?

btw ben wel benieuwd voor het nieuwe PHB, gelukkig nog maar 3 maandjes wachten, maar of die dan al in NL uit zal zijn??

[Outcast]

Wat ze met haste doen is prima, het is nu toch veel te grof en zoals ze het nu willen doen klinkt het prima.

En quickened is op hoog lvl best grof maar toch misschien nog iets te zwak.En idd een level slot minder daar ben ik het zeker mee eens. Maar op hoog lvl neem ik zeker quickened spells nu haste aangepast wordt.

Prima verandering!!

[Elminster]

Yeps, nou benieuwd wat Harm en Heal gaan doen... Anyway ook al een moie voorkant, inderdaad precies zoals ze beloofden: anders, maar direct als PHB herkenbaar...
Haste blijft dus trouwens even kewl voor fighters, of mag je geen full attack maken na het moven maar alleen twee standard attacks..?

[Bremmer]

alle core-feats in v3.5!!!!


Revision Spotlight
A Gathering of Feats

The choices you make about feats are some of the most important options you have for making your D&D character different from all the thousands of others of the same class and level and for shaping the character into the archetypal hero you envision. This week we're offering up the new list of feats for review.

General Feats
Acrobatic
Agile
Alertness
Animal Affinity
Armor Proficiency (light)
Armor Proficiency (medium)
Armor Proficiency (heavy)
Athletic
Augment Summoning
Blind-Fight
Combat Casting
Combat Expertise
Improved Disarm
Improved Feint
Improved Trip
Whirlwind Attack
Combat Reflexes
Deceitful
Deft Hands
Diligent
Dodge
Mobility
Spring Attack
Endurance
Diehard
Eschew Materials
Exotic Weapon Proficiency
Extra Turning
Great Fortitude
Improved Counterspell
Improved Critical
Improved Initiative
Improved Turning
Improved Unarmed Strike
Improved Grapple
Deflect Arrows
Snatch Arrows
Stunning Fist
Investigator
Iron Will
Leadership
Lightning Reflexes
Magical Affinity
Martial Weapon Proficiency
Mounted Combat
Mounted Archery
Ride-By Attack
Spirited Charge
Trample
Natural Spell
Negotiator
Nimble Fingers
Persuasive
Point Blank Shot
Far Shot
Precise Shot
Rapid Shot
Manyshot
Shot on the Run
Improved Precise Shot
Power Attack
Cleave
Great Cleave
Improved Bull Rush
Improved Overrun
Improved Sunder
Quick Draw
Rapid Reload
Run
Self-Sufficient
Shield Proficiency
Improved Shield Bash
Tower Shield Proficiency
Simple Weapon Proficiency
Skill Focus
Spell Focus
Greater Spell Focus
Spell Mastery
Spell Penetration
Greater Spell Penetration
Stealthy
Toughness
Track
Two-Weapon Fighting
Two-Weapon Defense
Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
Greater Two-Weapon Fighting
Weapon Finesse
Weapon Focus
Weapon Specialization
Greater Weapon Focus
Greater Weapon Specialization

Item Creation Feats
Brew Potion
Craft Magic Arms and Armor
Craft Rod
Craft Staff
Craft Wand
Craft Wondrous Item
Forge Ring
Scribe Scroll

Metamagic Feats
Empower Spell
Enlarge Spell
Extend Spell
Heighten Spell
Maximize Spell
Quicken Spell
Silent Spell
Still Spell
Widen Spell

[Bremmer]

het zijn er eens stuk meer als de huidige core-feats. Er zijn een aantal nieuwe en veel feats die van de splat books naar de core-lijst zijn gegaan

[aekold]

Dat ziet er veel belovend uit, vooral Greater Weapon Specialization.

[Planetouched]

jammer dat ze de meta magic niet verder uitbreiden...

[Bremmer]

idd en Manyshot is zeer de moeite waard...

[Elminster]

Die staat zelds nog in de Epic Level handbook reprinted als ??n van de weinige non-epic feats.. :)
Meer feats -> Meer variatie -> Persoonlijker character -> Meer RP fun (Y)

[Bremmer]

Originally posted by Elminster
Die staat zelds nog in de Epic Level handbook reprinted als ??n van de weinige non-epic feats.. :)


weet ik, let maar op mijn epic karakter :)

[Elminster]

Originally posted by Bremmer

weet ik, let maar op mijn epic karakter :)
Het fijne van non-epic feats is dat je niet epic hoeft te zijn :)
Maar je hebt m dus af? Zou je wat leuke info erover willen posten in die thread? attacks/damage enz :), special abilities...
Weet ik een beetje waar ik aan begin in de vakantie...

[Bremmer]

nee ik heb nog niet helemaal af, maar het gaat er ongeveer als volgt uitzien: klik hier (http://www.trefpuntmagic.nl/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=639&pagenumber=3)

[Planetouched]

You've waited -- you've wondered -- you've waited some more. This week we finally get around to showing off the new haste spell that everyone's been harping about. The big question is, were we just procrastinating, or intentionally prolonging your antici ... (wait for it) ... pation?

The spell had several problems as published -- mainly, it was just too good, especially for sorcerers. It overshadowed most other 3rd-level spells and made the Quicken Spell feat largely redundant. Haste was really meant to be a fighter buff, but wizards and sorcerers seemed to be the main beneficiaries. This new version brings it back to its intended function and should also eliminate the confusion that all those extra actions were causing.

As always, remember that nothing is complete or final until you buy the book in the store.

Haste
Transmutation
Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 3
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Targets: One creature/level, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart
Duration: 1 round/level
Saving Throw: Fortitude negates (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)

The transmuted creatures move and act more quickly than normal. This extra speed has several effects.

When making a full attack action, a hasted creature may make one extra attack with any weapon he is holding. The attack is made using the creature's full base attack bonus, plus any modifiers appropriate to the situation. (This effect is not cumulative with similar effects, such as that provided by a weapon of speed, nor does it actually grant an extra action, so you can't use it to cast a second spell or otherwise take an extra action in the round.)

A hasted creature gains a +1 bonus on attack rolls and a +1 dodge bonus to AC and Reflex saves. Any condition that makes you lose your Dexterity bonus to Armor Class (if any) also makes you lose dodge bonuses.

All of the hasted creature's modes of movement (including land movement, burrow, climb, fly, and swim) increase by 30 feet, to a maximum of twice the subject's normal speed using that form of movement. This increase counts as an enhancement bonus, and it affects the creature's jumping distance as normal for increased speed.

Multiple haste effects don't stack. Haste dispels and counters slow.

Material Component: A shaving of licorice root.



Ko fucking lere...die eikels van wizards of the coast...dit is dus niet leuk. Haste is nu alleen nog maar nuttig voor melee kinda types. Geen extra spell meer, geen +4 AC bonus meer maar +1...shit, ik schrap deze van mijn spell-list. Dan maar een fatsoenlijke fireball.

[Outcast]

Eindelijk verandert haste en ik ben zeer tevreden met dit resultaat. Het is nog steeds een prima lvl 3 spell en de +4 ac en extra spell casten was toch al veel te overpowered. En haste moet idd niet voor casters bedoeld zijn maar voor melee-ers. nee hoor prima ga hem gelijk in mijn quests op deze manier gebruiken.

Outcast.

[Planetouched]

ik vind wel dat ze dan tegelijker tijd de level adjustment voor de quicken spell met minstens 1 a 2 omlaag mogen halen. Nu is het alleen een leuke spell die wordt verwijdert zonder dat er iets voor in de plaats komt. Ach, ik mijn sessies is deze verandering nu ook officeel. NEE DAVID geen extra spell meer:D

[Bremmer]

ahum let op targets: 1 per level!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dan kun je dus je hele fighter afdeling van je party hasten he....ik herhaal je HELE party
dus ik zou hem niet zo snel afschrijven.

maar dan vraag je je af wat ze met mass haste hebben gedaan? (?) geschrapt?

[Planetouched]

guess so,...of gewoon iets beter gemaakt dan de normale haste

[aekold]

Ik bedacht me laatst iets leuks (onder oude regels dan wel). Met een epic feat, kan je 5 rondes per dag at will een haste hebben, conbineer dat met hustle (spion power, krijg je een extra partial action) en je kan best wel veel doen in een beurt.