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SungShik
26th October 2004, 22:03
En zie daar!

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/mtgcom_arcana_675_pic1_en.jpg

Het officiele logo!
(Is dit de geschikte plek om dit te posten, of had ik dit bij Art of iets moeten wegzetten?)

Nitro
27th October 2004, 02:52
is dat alles wat er tot nu toe bekend is? Nou ja het ziet er nog niet speciaal uit ofzo
en ShungShik dit is idd de juist plek, want hier moet je alle nieuwtjes posten

Elminster
28th October 2004, 01:08
Vind het er erg simpel maar toch wel relaxt uitzien :). Beetje art erbij was cool geweest, maar tis wel een heck of a logo!

Carnage
30th October 2004, 04:03
Het schijnt (en is te verwachten) dat er in Betrayers of Kamigawa alternatieve 'Splice onto Arcane' costs zitten, zoals leven dokken en creatures sacrificen enzo.

Yavanna
30th October 2004, 13:32
das weer een mooie optie dan :D kan leuk worden!

Planetouched
31st October 2004, 13:29
ehe, weer een pre-release waar ik naartoe moet:)

aekold
31st October 2004, 19:38
En weer het bewijs dat je gewoon moet blijven magiccen.

Elminster
31st October 2004, 23:09
Dat was natuurlijk al maanden vantevoren te ruiken - elke nieuwe cost krijgt wel andere manieren om te betalen in de opvolgende set, zoals saccen of dissen ofzo... Geeft meestal niet direct een nieuwe dimensie, wel meer mogelijkheden

squirle
10th December 2004, 19:51
Landelijke pre-releases 22/23 januari

Previews 10 januari

http://www.ps-games.nl/images/content/BoKProductFamily.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/global/images/mtgcom_arcana_709_pic2_en.jpg
http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/mtgcom/arcana300/BOK_Exp_R.jpg

Carnage
10th December 2004, 22:00
Vet!!! We gaan natuurlijk weer.

Ninja's zijn confirmed geloof ik trouwens als ik zo eens naar die displays kijk...:D

squirle
17th December 2004, 20:40
De eerste kaarten zijn ook alweer bekend.

Vage abbility, alleen het nut buiten het redden van een gemolde unblocked attacker en een 2de comes-into-play effect gebruiken zie ik alleen het nut niet.

http://forums.mtgnews.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35559

aekold
17th December 2004, 21:57
Ik vermoed dat dit een fake is. Let maar eens op de wording: To hand?? Het moet zijn to your hand.
Het lijkt met niet dat wizards zo'n fout maakt.

Elminster
17th December 2004, 21:58
Sterker nog: to it's owner's hand... Hij lijkt me idd fake, vooral omdat het een scan is die wel errug lijkt op de output van de MTG Set editor. Wel vette ability, lijkt op het morph effect, maar nog onverwachter

squirle
18th December 2004, 16:17
Nee hij is al confirmed op mtg news

aekold
18th December 2004, 18:40
Dat zie ik anders niet staan. Het laatste nieuws dat er staat is over Ravnica.

Elminster
19th December 2004, 22:33
Raar :S http://cards.mtgnews.com/Find/Spoilers/BK/Betrayers_of_Kamigawa_Spoiler.html

Met 'to your hand'

Maf, denk dat dat nog wel anders wordt hoor. Misschien dat-ie verder echt is...

Carnage
19th December 2004, 22:55
Hier heb je nog wat [unconfirmed]

Sosuke's Summons - 2G
Sorcery (U)
Put two 1/1 green Snake creature tokens into play.
Whenever a non-token Snake comes into play under your control, you may
return Sosuke's Summons from your graveyard to your hand.


Honor the Fallen 1W
Instant
Rare
Remove all creature cards in all graveyards from the game.
You gain 1 life for each card removed this way.
Artist: John Avon
12/165

Samurai Honor Guard 1W
Creature - Human Samurai
Common
Bushido 1
W1: Samurai Honor Guard gains First strike until end of turn.
W: Samurai Honor Guard gains Vigilance until end of turn.
1/1
Artist: Alex Horley-Orlandelli
35/165

Ninja of the Shallow Mind 1U
Creature - Human Ninja
Common
Ninjitsu U (U, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this
card into play from your hand tapped and attacking.)
Whenever Ninja of the Shallow Mind deals combat damage to a player, discard
a card, then draw a card.
1/1
Artist: Alan Pollack
46/165

Ancient Runes 2R
Enchantment
Uncommon
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, Ancient Runes deals to that player
damage equal to the number of artifacts he or she controls.
Artist: Lars Grant-West
88/165

Wall of Heat 2R
Creature - Wall
Common
Defender (This creature cannot attack)
2/6
109/165
Artist: Carl Critchlow

Brushweaver Kami 1GG
Creature - Spirit
Uncommon
Soulshift 2 (When this is put into a graveyard from play, you may return
target Spirit card with converted mana cost 2 or less from your graveyard to
your hand.)
When Brushworn Kami is put into the graveyard from play, you may return a
land card from your graveyard to play tapped.
3/2
Artist: Michael Sutfin
111/165

SungShik
19th December 2004, 22:59
Ancient Runes is de Imi Statue van Betrayers ofzo ^o)

aekold
20th December 2004, 01:02
Raar :S http://cards.mtgnews.com/Find/Spoilers/BK/Betrayers_of_Kamigawa_Spoiler.html

Met 'to your hand'

Maf, denk dat dat nog wel anders wordt hoor. Misschien dat-ie verder echt is...
Dat verschilt al met wat Squirle poste. Daar stopnd namelijk 'to hand', dit klopt dan al wat beter.

squirle
20th December 2004, 15:28
Niet altijd staat de hele tekst op de kaart. Past er soms niet op. Neem die flipkaarten waar zoveel problemen over waren op de pre-release. Veel kaarten zonder flavor tekst hebben bv wel een flavortekst in de oracle.

aekold
20th December 2004, 19:34
Hier was anders nog genoeg ruimte voor de rest van de tekst zou ik zeggen.

Elminster
20th December 2004, 21:51
Idd, volgens mij staat een tekst er wel of niet op, maar nooit foutief...

Nouja we zullen zien. Zoals ik zei, ik vind het best een coole ability!

Carnage
22nd December 2004, 17:36
Iets dat lijkt op het volgende:

Ninja of the temple gardens BB1
Creature - Rat Ninja Uncommon
When ~ comes into play target opponent discards a card.
Ninjitsu BB
3/1
Illus: Darrel Richie
76/165

Carnage
23rd December 2004, 16:24
Iets in deze richting schijnt de pre-release foil kaart te zijn:

Name1 - 2G
Creature - Human Something (R)
Whenever you play a Spirit or Arcane spell, you may put a ki counter on Name1. At end of turn, if there are two or more ki counters on Name1, you may flip it.
1/2
///flip///
Name2
Legendary Creature - Spirit
Remove a ki couner from Name2: Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn.
4/5

Carnage
24th December 2004, 13:30
Beslis zelf maar, of ie echt is of niet:
Master of the Last Hour (http://img133.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img133&image=MasteroftheLasthour1.jpg)

Ennn:

There's a spell almost identical to Quash but it can counter any spell, not just an instant or sorcery.

Elminster
24th December 2004, 13:36
Yeah Quash is zelf al zo vet, dan wordt-ie helemaal lekker!

Carnage
25th December 2004, 16:34
De tweede 'betrayer' split kaart is bekend:

Faithful Squire - 1WW
Creature - Human Soldier (U)
Whenever you play a Spirit or Arcane spell, you may put a ki counter on Faithful Squire. At end of turn, if there are two or more ki counters on Faithful Squire, you may flip it.
2/2

///

Kaiso, Memory of Loyalty
Legendary Creature - Spirit
Flying
Remove a ki counter from Kaiso, Memory of Loyalty: Prevent all damage that would be dealt to target creature this turn.
3/4

Elminster
25th December 2004, 17:54
'ki' komt nu wel in errug veel spellen terug :S

Carnage
27th December 2004, 19:44
Mark of the Oni - 2B
Enchant Creature (U)
You control enchanted creature. At end of turn, if you control no Demons, sacrifice Mark of the Oni.

Carnage
3rd January 2005, 10:42
Rechtstreeks afkomstig van MTG Salvation Forum (http://www.retetched.com/optix/phpBB2/) (de nieuwe thuisbasis van Rancored Elf):

Frostling - R
Creature - Spirit ( C)
Sac: 1 damage to any target.
1/1

Kami of False Hope - W
Creature - Spirit ( C)
Sacrifice Kami of False Hope: Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt this turn.
1/1

Bile Urchin - B
Creature - Spirit ( C)
Sacrifice Bile Urchin: Target player loses one life.
1/1

Child of Thorns - G
Creature - Spirit ( C)
Sacrifice Child of Thorns: Target creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
1/1

Iwamori of the Open Fist - 2GG
Legendary Creature - Human Monk ( R)
Trample
When Iwamori of the Open Fist comes into play, each opponent may put a legendary creature card from his or her hand into play.
5/5

Final Judgment - 4WW
Sorcery ( R)
Remove all creatures from the game.

Elminster
3rd January 2005, 15:00
Errug speelbare commons (Y). Al met al gaat er nogal wat dood hier ;)

Carnage
3rd January 2005, 22:02
Die 'Frostling' is een functionele reprint van Mogg Fanatic!! :D. Alleen nu als Spirit, wat 'm nog beter maakt (Soulshift).

Elminster
4th January 2005, 16:54
Ja beetje raar dat ze die reprinten... had dat niet verwacht na Dwarven Scorcher. Maar die Holy Day with Legs is ook niet verkeerd hoor, en ook een spirit :)

Carnage
4th January 2005, 18:46
Opal Eye, Konda's Yojimbo 1WW (He's the Ninja looking fox dude. We have the art.) (R)
Legendary Creature- Fox Samurai
Bushido 1, Defender
T, The next time a source of your choice would deal damage this turn, that damage is dealt to Opal Eye, Konda's Yojimbo instead.
1W: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to Opal Eye this turn.
1/4

Patron of the Kitsune 4WW (R)
Legendary Creature- Spirit
Fox Offering(You may play this card any time you could play an instant by sacrificing a Fox and paying the difference in mana costs between this and the sacrificed Fox. Mana cost includes color.)
Whenever a creature attacks, you may gain 1 life.
5/6
Ben Thompson, 19/165

Sway of the Stars 8UU (R)
Sorcery
Each player shuffles his or her hand, graveyard, and permanents he or she controls into his or her library, then draws seven cards. Each player's life total becomes 7.
Randy Gallegos, 54/165

Patron of the Moon 5UU (R)
Creature- ???
Moonfolk Offering
Flying
1: Put up to two land cards from your hand into play tapped.
5/4

Floodbringer 1U
Creature-???
2, Return a land you control to it's owners hand: Tap target land.
1/2

In the Web of War 3RR (R)
Enchantment
Whenever a creature comes into play under your control, it gets +2/+0 and haste until end of turn.

By the way, Ninjas are not just blue.

Throat-Slitter 4B (U)
Creature- Rat Ninja
Ninjitsu 2B
Whenever Throat Slitter deals combat damage to a player, destroy target nonblack creature that player controls.
2/2

Okiba-Gang Shinobi ???
Creature- Rat Ninja???
Ninjitsu ???
When Okiba Gang Shinobi deals combat damage to a player, that player discards two cards from his or her hand.
3/2

Kyoki, Sanity's Eclipse ?? (R)
Legendary Creature-Demon Spirit
Whenever you play a spirit or arcane spell, target player removes a card in his or her hand from the game.
6/4

Kira, Great Glass Spinner 1UU (R)
Legendary Creature- Spirit
Flying
Creatures you control have 'Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability for the first time this turn, counter that spell or ability.'
2/2

Genju of the Spires R (U)
Enchant Mountain
2: Enchanted mountain becomes a 6/1 red spirit creature until end of turn. It's still a land.
Whenever encanted mountain is put into a graveyard, return Genju of the Spires from your graveyard to your hand.
Joel Thomas, 105 or 108/165

Disrupting Shoal XUU (The Singapore pre-release flyer art) (R)
Instant- Arcane
You may remove a blue card in your hand with converted mana cost X from the game rather than pay Disrupting Shoal's mana cost.
Counter target spell if it's converted mana cost is X.
Scott M. Fisher, 33/165

Day of Destiny 3W (R)
Legendary Enchantment
Legendary creatures you control get +2/+2.

Rumored Cards Confirmed
-The Frostling Cycle
-Budoka Pupil
-The Eradicate cycle


Other hints
The Genjus are a cycle. The Blue one is Genju of the Falls and makes a 3/2 Flyer.
The Shoals are also a cycle. Red's one grants +X/+0 and yes, it has an alternate casting cost.

SungShik
4th January 2005, 19:27
Die enchant mountain is wel goed toch?

Wesley
4th January 2005, 22:15
Jazeker, al mist hij trample, wat hem toch zeer minder maakt.

SungShik
4th January 2005, 22:18
Ach, hij heeft wel een groot "Tadaaa!"-effect als finisher toch? )

squirle
4th January 2005, 22:43
De holy day on legs is weer een reprint van spore frog, en de mogg fanatic, benieuwd wat de andere kleuren krijgen voor spirit-prints.

Elminster
5th January 2005, 14:01
Nouja Kami of False Hope is natuurlijk niet groen, dus waarschijnlijk is het geen hele 'reprint'-cycle...

Carnage
5th January 2005, 17:40
Die Frostling (de 'nieuwe' Mogg Fanatic) schijnt alleen damage te mogen doen aan creatures....dan is ie al een stukkie minder.

Nog meer nieuws:

Shimmering Glasskite -3U
Creature - Spirit (C)
Flying
Whenever Shimmering Glasskite becomes the target of a spell or ability for the first time in a turn, counter that spell or ability.
2/3

Forked-Branch Garami - 3GG
Creature - Spirit (U)
Soulshift 4, Soulshift 4 (Whenever this card is put into a graveyard from play, you may return up to two target Spirit cards with converted mana cost of 4 or less from your graveyard to your hand.)
4/4

Terashi's Grasp - 2W
Sorcery - Arcane (C)
Destroy target artifact or enchantment. You gain life equal to its converted mana cost.

Uproot - 3G
Sorcery - Arcane (C)
Put target land on top of its owner's library.

Kyoki's, Sanity's Eclipse - 4BB
Legendary Creature - Demon Spirit (R)
Whenever you play a Spirit or Arcane spell, target opponent removes a card in his or her hand from the game.
6/4

Carnage
6th January 2005, 14:19
Hokori, Dust Drinker 2WW
Legendary Creature—Spirit
Lands don't untap during their controller's untap steps.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps a land he or she controls.
2/2

Blazing Shoal XRR
Instant—Arcane
You may remove a red card with converted mana cost X in your hand from the game rather than pay Blazing Shoal's mana cost.
Target creature gets +X/+0 until end of turn.

Patron of the Moon - 5UU
Legendary Creature - Spirit
Moonfolk offering (You may play this card at any time you count play an instant by sacrificing a Moonfolk and paying the difference in mana costs between this and the sacrificed Moonfolk. Mana cost includes color.)
Flying
1: Put up to two land cards from your hand into play tapped.
5/4

Mistblade Shinobi - 2U
Creature - Human Ninja
Ninjitsu U (reminder text...)
Whenever Mistblade Shinobi deals conbat damage to a player, you may return target creature that player controls to its owner's hand.
1/1
Common

It's an "enchant land" or maybe "enchant forest" for one green mana, which returns to hand if it goes to the graveyard from play, and enchanted land is a 4/4 creature (maybe with trample) if you pay two colorless.

aekold
7th January 2005, 14:12
Ziet er vet uit. Vanavond even een doosje bij summoner bestellen.

Carnage
8th January 2005, 16:17
Hero's Demise 1B
Instant (R)
Destroy target legendary creature.

Aura Barbs - 2R
Instant - Arcane (U)
Each enchantment deals 2 damage to its controller, then each enchantment enchanting a creature deals 2 damage to the creature it’s enchanting.

yukora the prisonner 2BB or 3B
creature - demon spirit or ogre
when ~~ leaves play, sacrifices all your non-ogre creatures
5/5

Body of jukai 7GG
Creature - spirit
Soulshift 8
?/?

Sickening shoal XBB
instant - arcane
Shoal ability
Target creature gets -x/-x until end of turn

Carnage
10th January 2005, 21:14
De previews zijn weer begonnen op www.magicthegathering.com (Y) :)

En hier weer wat nieuws:


That Which Was Taken - 5
4, T: Put a divinity counter on target permanent other than That Which Was Taken. Each permanent with a divinity counter on it is indestructible.


Patron of the Orochi 6GG
Legendary Creature - Spirit
Snake offering (You may play this card any time you could play an instant by sacrificing a Snake and paying the difference in mana costs between this and the sacrificed Snake. Mana cost includes color.)
T: Untap all forests and all green creatures. Use this only once each turn.

7/7


Patron of the Nezumi 5BB
Legendary Creature - Spirit
Rat offering (You may play this card any time you could play an instant by sacrificing a Rat and paying the difference in mana costs between this and the sacrificed Rat. Mana cost includes color.)
Whenever a permanent an opponent controls is put into a graveyard from play, that player loses 1 life.
6/6

Carnage
16th January 2005, 18:12
Update:

Minamo’s Meddling - 2UU
Instant (C)
Counter target spell. That spell’s controller reveals his or her hand.

Ogre Recluse - 3R
Creature - Ogre Warrior (U)
Whenever a player plays a spell, tap Ogre Recluse.
5/4


Ogre Marauder - 1BB
Creature - Ogre Warrior (U)
Whenever Ogre Marauder attacks, it can’t be blocked this turn unless defending player sacrifices a creature.
3/1

Scourge of Numai - 3B
Creature - Demon Spirit (U)
At the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 2 life if you don’t control an Ogre.
4/4

Takenuma Bleeder - 2B
Creature - Ogre Shaman (C)
Whenever Takenuma Bleeder attacks or blocks, you lose 1 life if you don’t control a Demon.
3/3

Crack the Earth -R
Sorcery - Arcane (C)
Each player sacrifices a permanent.

Mark of Sakiko - 1G
Enchant Creature (U)
Enchanted creature has “Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, add that much G (green mana) to your mana pool. This mana doesn’t cause mana burn. Until end of turn, this mana doesn’t empty from your mana pool as phases end.”


Walker of Secret Ways 2U
Creature- Human Ninja
Ninjitsu 1U
When Walker of Secret Ways deals combat damage to a player, look at that player's hand.
1U: Return target Ninja you control to it's owners hand. Play this ability only during your own turn.
2/2?

Elminster
16th January 2005, 22:53
Die Crack the Earth is stoer :). En de Mark of Sakiko wordt weer grappig voor MTGonline, apart bijhouden welke mana burnt en welke niet :D

Carnage
17th January 2005, 17:27
Yep inderdaad.

En er komt elke dag weer meer nieuws bij:

Gods' Eye, Gate to the Reikai
Legendary Land (U)
T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
When Gods’ Eye, Gate to the Reikai is put into a graveyard from play, put a 1/1 colorless Spirit creature token into play.

Terashi’s Verdict - 1W
Instant - Arcane (U)
Destroy target attacking creature with power 3 or less.


Slumbering Tora - 3
Artifact (R)
2, Discard a Spirit or Arcane card: Slumbering Tora becomes an X/X artifact creature until end of turn, where X is the discarded card's converted mana cost.

Chisei, Heart of Oceans -2(U)(U)
Legendary Creature - Spirit (R)
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Chisei, Heart of Oceans unless you remove a counter from a permanent you control.
4/4
#32/165

Flames of the Blood Hand -2(R)
Instant (U)
Flames of the Blood Hand deals 4 damage to target player. The damage can't be prevented. If that player would gain life this turn, that player gains no life instead.

Carnage
18th January 2005, 20:58
Horobi's Whisper -1(B)(B)
Instant - Arcane (C)
If you control a Swamp, destroy target nonblack creature.
Splice onto Arcane - Remove four cards in your graveyard from the game. (As
you play an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay
its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell.)

Torrent of Stone -3R
Instant - Arcane (C)
Torrent of Stone deals 4 damage to target creature.
Splice onto Arcane - Sacrifice two mountains. (As you play an Arcane spell,
you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do,
add this card's effects to that spell.)

Veil of Secrecy - 1U
Instant - Arcane (C)
Target creature is unblockable and can't be the target of spells or
abilities this turn.
Splice onto Arcane - Return a blue creature you control to its owner's hand.
(As you play an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and
pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell.)

Roar of Jukai - 2G
Instant - Arcane (C)
If you control a Forest, each blocked creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn.
Splice onto Arcane - An opponent gains 5 life. (As you play an Arcane spell,
you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do,
add this card's effects to that spell.)

aekold
19th January 2005, 00:57
Wel vet, maar wel te verwachten, alternative costs.

Hoe gaan we trouwens nou naar eindhoven?

Elminster
19th January 2005, 01:51
Ik ga iig treinen, heb weekend-OV... alhoewel met zn vieren gratis in Carnage's Car ook niet slecht klinkt :P..

Carnage
19th January 2005, 16:19
Auto vind ik wel okay MITS ik die daar kwijt kan? (Y).

Yavanna
19th January 2005, 18:32
fak, ik kan eiluk nie echt meer, moet je je dan afmelden of is t okej als je gewoon nie komt?

Planetouched
19th January 2005, 19:04
nogmaals een oproep, indien iemand aan een extra pre-release kaart kan komen->graag

aekold
19th January 2005, 20:55
Zoals je mss wel in bovenstaande post kunt leven kan Mar niet meer en kun je dus mss haar kaartje overnemen??

Elminster
19th January 2005, 23:58
Alleen heeft Mar geen kaart maar een gewone reservering :S... Moet geen probleem zijn denk ik, maar een mailtje kan geen kwaad

Planetouched
20th January 2005, 00:41
ja pcies, ik heb zelf tentamen de maandag erna dus daarom zoek ik iemand die een pre-release kaart kan fixen voor me:)

Carnage
23rd January 2005, 13:13
Het is me niet echt gelukt zeg maar....en dan spreek ik zowel over de kaart voor Planetouched als mijn prestatie op het toernooi :|

Elminster
24th January 2005, 10:12
Je kan mijn prerelease kaart overnemen... Je hebt vast nog wel wat leuks?

aekold
24th January 2005, 10:32
Ik vind de pre-release kaart maar lelijk.

Planetouched
24th January 2005, 13:40
eh, jot doen we nog welles, keer afspreken

Yavanna
24th January 2005, 17:38
welke kaart is de prereleasekaart?

aekold
24th January 2005, 18:59
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni

Carnage
24th January 2005, 19:34
Alternative art ook nog

Elminster
25th January 2005, 01:31
En best goed op zich :)

Carnage
21st February 2005, 23:21
Het verhaal van Betrayers of Kamigawa is best vet eigenlijk:

20 jaar geleden, merkte Konda dat hij ouder werd...hij wilde echter blijven leven om zijn rijk te regeren en te beschermen. Hij heeft daarom een ritueel opgestart, waardoor hij in de wereld van de Kami kwam. Hieruit heeft hij een Kami (een 'god') gestolen, waardoor hij onsterfelijk werd. Zie ook de kaart 'That Which Was Taken'. (daarom is Konda ook undestructable ))
Dit is de reden achter de Kami-war!!!

Bovendien is de opper-kami hierdoor wakker geworden (The Kami of All, o-Karachi ofzoiets)...te zien op de Betrayers of Kamigawa kaart 'Final Judgement'.

Echter, Konda wordt niet direct aangevallen omdat hij een Kami in zijn bezit heeft...

Elminster
22nd February 2005, 01:23
Inderdaad best een stevig verhaal :). Ik vind het Mirrodin verhaal niet zo erg lekker weglezen eerlijk gezegd...

aekold
22nd February 2005, 13:27
Mss maar eens een keer de boeken van kamigawa bestellen.